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26 August 2010

A Tale of Two Cities: Copts Call Muslim Hypocrisy over Ground Zero Mosque

muslims-firebombed-church-malaysia.jpgAs ever, as Muslims and their left-wing camp followers attack everyday Americans – the overwheming majority of whom agree that it is an act of gross insensitivity for the Cordoba Initiative to construct its ‘Park 51′ mosque and ‘community centre’ near the site of the 9/11 atrocity – it’s one rule for the Ummah and another for everyone else.

The AINA” Eastern Christian site exposes the hypocrites and their fallacious arguments in an excellent piece this morning:

Egyptians, Muslims and Christians alike, are closely watching the controversy associated with the Ground Zero Mosque project, though for different reasons. The Egyptian media is giving this issue full coverage with articles mostly accusing Americans of Islamophobia, and supporting Muslims to hold on to their rights to build a mosque anywhere as guaranteed by the US constitution, regardless of what Americans think.

On the other hand, some influential Muslims rejected the idea of a Mosque near Ground Zero only on grounds that it would backfire on Islam, by connecting it to the 9/11 events. Dr. AbdelMotey Bayoumi, a member of Al Azhar’s Islamic Research Academy, believes it could be a “Zionist conspiracy” to harm Islam.

American-Egyptian Copts were also accused of organizing the rally which is to be staged on 9/11 with Geert Wilders, reported the Egyptian daily “youm7″ on August 20, 2010.

“I cannot believe the double standards of the Egyptian Muslims,” commented Coptic activist Magdy Guindi. “It is obvious that Americans don’t approve of this Mosque being near Ground Zero. Is this not one of the conditions applied to church building in Egypt?”

Much of the on-going sectarian strife in Egypt is related to the ability to build churches. Unlike Muslim citizens, who only need a municipal license to build mosques, the Copts require presidential approval for a church, based on the 1856 Ottoman Hamayoni Decree, in addition to ten humiliating conditions laid down by the Ezaby Pasha Decree of 1934, before being considered for a presidential decree. These include the approval of the neighboring Muslim community.

“Muslim clerics and Islamists easily persuade Muslims that a church is equivalent to slandering Islam, so they take advantage of this “Muslim approval” condition,” said Guindi.

Even after obtaining licenses for a church, Muslims still attack Christians and demolish or burn their churches.
A rumor that Christians are meeting to pray is enough reason for Muslim neighbors to carry out acts of violence against them. On various occasions, it only takes Muslims to protest against the building of a church for State Security to stop the works, under the pretext that it is causing “sectarian strife.”

In 2005 President Mubarak issued a decree, which delegated authority to the country’s 26 governors to grant permits to Christians to expand or rebuild existing churches. Instead of making matters easier, many local officials intentionally delay or refuse to process applications without “supporting documents” that are virtually impossible to obtain. State Security often block them from using permits that have been issued on “security concerns.”

Last month a problem arose between the Governor of Minya and Anba Agathon, the Bishop of the diocese of Maghagha and Edwah, which is still unresolved, despite mediation efforts by Coptic Pope Shenouda III.

The Governor suddenly suspended the license obtained for the renewal of the 1934 diocese in Maghagha, including the church, after it was demolished, as agreed with the governor. The pretext for the suspension was because the 45 square meters of rooms where the Bishop lives were not demolished as well. Although the Bishop confirmed that the governor agreed verbally to the Bishop staying in his dwelling until new rooms are built on the new site, the governor now insists that the Bishop “should find somewhere else to sleep.”

Since March 16, 2010, after the demolition of the old church, the Bishop and the congregation have been celebrating mass in a linen tent erected on the courtyard where the new church is planned, under the summer heat exceeding 45C. The Diocese of Maghagha serves 250,000 Copts.

Realizing that the governor has tricked them into getting them to demolished the old church first, Bishop Agathon, 75 clergy and nearly 150,000 Copts from parishes all over the Diocese of Maghagha and Edwah have staged a three day sit-in in Maghagha tent church from July 25, 2010, protesting against the intransigence of the Governor of Minya. They wanted to travel to Cairo to continue their sit-in at the Coptic Patriarchate in Cairo, after presenting a petition signed by 160,000 Copts from the Diocese to President Mubarak. It was reported that the Pope, who was undergoing medical treatment in the U.S., asked the Bishop to wait until his return.

Most Copts interviewed on the issue of the Ground Zero Mosque thought that even if Moslems had the right to build a mosque, it should be somewhere else, to save the victims families any pain. Others thought the Muslim attitude was typical “They go to a country and want to take it over, making the best of democratic rights to their advantage, but when it comes to Islamic countries, matters are different, and they forget about the rights of others,” commented one young Coptic girl.

“Let Muslims experience the rage and frustration we have been going through for centuries, every time we want to build or repair a dilapidating church in our own country,” commented Coptic activist Mina Hanna, in what sounded like Schadenfreude. “It would be interesting to see what happens if the West decided to treat Muslims like Christians in Egypt.”

A quick glance at stories under the ‘Religious Persecution’ tag of this blog will reveal everything you need to know about Islamic attitudes to other faiths.

Yet once again, it is non-Muslim Westerners that are being accused of intolerance, not only by Muslms, but by their own liberal politicians and media; few of whom have the remotest clue (or do but don’t say anything) about Muslim religious intolerance.

How can it be ‘Islamophobic’ to complain about the highly insensitive siting of just one more mosque in a country already filled with mosques; when Christians unfortunate enough to live in Muslim-majority countries find it virtually impossible to build ANY new places of worship?

Lets see some Churches in Istanbul, some Synagogues in Saudi Arabia and some Hindu Temples in Pakistan before Muslims can play the ‘intolerance’ card with us.

Let’s see some reciprocity.

And the likely outcome of that?


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Prof. F. N. Lee's "ISLAM IN THE BIBLE"

Eminent Australian theologian and church historian known worldwide as Professor Francis Nigel Lee (who has eleven earned doctorates!) has found claims in the Koran that may have escaped the attention of many Muslims including those in the White House.
It's amazing how often in history someone notices an unclear passage in the Bible, sees possibilities in it as a wellhead, isolates it and then backstabbingly uses it against the Bible's intent while developing an anti-Biblical cult or false religion!
Dr. Lee quotes the Koran which claims that when Jesus promised that after His departure He would send the Holy Spirit to be personally with His followers as the "Comforter" (John 14:16, John 15:26, etc.), Jesus was actually promising He would send them Mohammed! (Aside from the blasphemy, has history shown Mohammed and his fanatical followers to be "Comforters" of human beings?)
Another quote from the Koran that Dr. Lee reveals is that the disciples of Jesus viewed themselves as "Muslims" - centuries before Mohammed was born!
To read Dr. F. N. Lee's scholarly and informative article, type in the "Islam in the Bible" pdf article associated with him. Interestingly, leading Christian scholars for many centuries have viewed the 9th chapter of Revelation (with its references to a violent army of 200 million who torture mankind in earth's final days, the centering on "the great river Euphrates," and the connection to demons loosed from "the bottomless pit" who inhabit this army) as a scary portrait of Islam murdering, in a short period, one-third of earth's population, as is explicitly stated there!
Readers may also wish to Google "Imam Bloomberg's Sharia Mosque" and "Michelle Obama's Allah-day" since these two items have been in the news lately.

(Discovered the above while blogging. I'm Tiffany)

Posted by: Tiffany | 26 August 2010

there are no american muslims...they are just muslims
they do not believe in Our Lord and God Jesus Christ, they believe in the moon god allah. muslims have no faith other in the false prophet mohammed. they don't care about the
people who died in the attack on the world trade center.
or for the ones who are still mourning and now they are trying to build a center in disrespect to all Americans.

Posted by: hammar | 29 August 2010

I feel those who havent accepted Islam and havent become muslims very very sorry. The life that is awaiting you after death is the worst thing ever. I put my head on the block and say that everyone who reads this message should accept Islam this minute, because a day is inevitable where a muslim will be all grateful to the Lord Almighty and a non-muslim will be in the greatest stress, worry and concern ever seen. A Non-muslim will wish he was a muslim on that day, he will be ready to give his belongings and family just to be muslim, but unfortunately it wont be possible and you have received the message, so won't be able to on that day say, "O my Lord, The muslims never gave me the message"

And realize what America, Israel, Allies and the media show you on tv and in the newspapers about muslims is the greatest joke ever. A Taliban official said it very nice in an interview with an American radio station, " I don't blame the world for hating the Taliban and muslims and if I was an American, I too would have hated the Taliban, because what an American sees on TV is completely opposite to whats going on in our country(Afghanistan)." Maybe you need to see pictures of what they did to children in Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan. In an example, if I come rob YOUR house and start hurting your wife and children, and you decide to fight back, you tell me who is the terrorist or robber between me and you?? A man has to be the greatest idiot to support and follow America(THE BIGGEST TERRORISTS).

At the end of the day, you think carefully as an intellectual. Don't listen and believe what you see on the news. Do your own research and see the truth. I can never force you, you should see it for yourself.
The best advice is accept Islam and you will enjoy life. Again do research of many people in the world are accepting Islam Daily!! I PROMISE ON MY LIFE, if you don't accept, you the looser and not me or any muslim. A muslim won't come to your door and shoot you because you a non-muslim, UNLESS you harm him, his family, his belongings, his country or stop him from spreading Islam!!!

Posted by: Sulaimaan | 29 August 2010

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